diff --git a/src/app/shared/NoteActions.svelte b/src/app/shared/NoteActions.svelte
index 4888ea99..b7642243 100644
--- a/src/app/shared/NoteActions.svelte
+++ b/src/app/shared/NoteActions.svelte
@@ -33,7 +33,7 @@
     MembershipLevel,
     publishToZeroOrMoreGroups,
     publishDeletionForEvent,
-    getUserRelayUrls,
+    getUserHints,
     getPublishHints,
     getSetting,
     processZap,
@@ -126,7 +126,7 @@
       .open()
 
   const broadcast = () => {
-    const relays = getUserRelayUrls("write")
+    const relays = getUserHints("write")
     const event = asNostrEvent(note)
 
     Publisher.publish({event, relays})
diff --git a/src/app/shared/NoteOptions.svelte b/src/app/shared/NoteOptions.svelte
index 0cfc2e3d..cd5bc9fc 100644
--- a/src/app/shared/NoteOptions.svelte
+++ b/src/app/shared/NoteOptions.svelte
@@ -13,8 +13,8 @@
   import RelayCard from "src/app/shared/RelayCard.svelte"
   import GroupSummary from "src/app/shared/GroupSummary.svelte"
   import RelaySearch from "src/app/shared/RelaySearch.svelte"
-  import {mergeHints, displayRelay, getGroupRelayUrls} from "src/engine"
-  import {env, getUserRelayUrls, deriveMembershipLevel, MembershipLevel} from "src/engine"
+  import {getGroupPublishHints, displayRelay} from "src/engine"
+  import {env, deriveMembershipLevel, MembershipLevel} from "src/engine"
 
   export let groupOptions = []
   export let hideFields = []
@@ -59,11 +59,7 @@
     }
 
     if (!relaysDirty) {
-      if (values.groups.length > 0) {
-        values.relays = mergeHints(values.groups.map(getGroupRelayUrls))
-      } else {
-        values.relays = getUserRelayUrls("write")
-      }
+      values.relays = getGroupPublishHints(values.groups)
     }
   }
 
diff --git a/src/app/shared/PersonActions.svelte b/src/app/shared/PersonActions.svelte
index 03f30ce7..0a80f01d 100644
--- a/src/app/shared/PersonActions.svelte
+++ b/src/app/shared/PersonActions.svelte
@@ -13,7 +13,7 @@
     unfollow,
     deriveMuted,
     deriveFollowing,
-    getUserRelayUrls,
+    getUserHints,
   } from "src/engine"
   import {boot} from "src/app/state"
   import {router} from "src/app/router"
@@ -32,8 +32,8 @@
     if (!isSelf && $canSign) {
       actions.push({
         onClick: $muted ? unmutePerson : mutePerson,
-        label: $muted ? 'Unmute' : 'Mute',
-        icon: $muted ? "microphone-slash" : 'microphone',
+        label: $muted ? "Unmute" : "Mute",
+        icon: $muted ? "microphone-slash" : "microphone",
       })
     }
 
@@ -87,7 +87,10 @@
   const mutePerson = () => mute("p", pubkey)
 
   const share = () =>
-    router.at('qrcode').of(nip19.nprofileEncode({pubkey, relays: getUserRelayUrls('write')})).open()
+    router
+      .at("qrcode")
+      .of(nip19.nprofileEncode({pubkey, relays: getUserHints("write")}))
+      .open()
 </script>
 
 <div class="flex items-center gap-3" on:click|stopPropagation>
diff --git a/src/app/views/GroupList.svelte b/src/app/views/GroupList.svelte
index 7f7ba687..299b6ceb 100644
--- a/src/app/views/GroupList.svelte
+++ b/src/app/views/GroupList.svelte
@@ -12,8 +12,7 @@
     load,
     groups,
     canUseGiftWrap,
-    getUserRelayUrls,
-    selectHints,
+    getUserHints,
     mergeHints,
     getGroupReqInfo,
     deriveMembershipLevel,
@@ -48,12 +47,12 @@
     updateCurrentSession(assoc("groups_last_synced", now()))
 
     load({
-      relays: mergeHints([relays, getUserRelayUrls("read")]),
+      relays: mergeHints([relays, getUserHints("read")]),
       filters: [{kinds: [1059], "#p": recipients, since}],
     })
 
     load({
-      relays: selectHints(getUserRelayUrls("read")),
+      relays: getUserHints("read"),
       filters: [
         {kinds: [34550], authors: admins},
         {kinds: [34550], limit: 100},
diff --git a/src/app/views/NoteCreate.svelte b/src/app/views/NoteCreate.svelte
index 9328c042..a738bc5f 100644
--- a/src/app/views/NoteCreate.svelte
+++ b/src/app/views/NoteCreate.svelte
@@ -34,9 +34,9 @@
     session,
     writable,
     getEventHints,
-    getUserRelayUrls,
     publishToZeroOrMoreGroups,
     deriveMembershipLevel,
+    getGroupPublishHints,
   } from "src/engine"
 
   export let type = "note"
@@ -58,8 +58,8 @@
     summary: "",
     price: "",
     currency: currencyOptions.find(whereEq({code: "SAT"})),
+    relays: getGroupPublishHints(defaultGroups),
     groups: defaultGroups,
-    relays: getUserRelayUrls("write"),
     shouldWrap: true,
     anonymous: false,
     location: null,
diff --git a/src/engine/channels/requests.ts b/src/engine/channels/requests.ts
index 6e88de5f..37e28b29 100644
--- a/src/engine/channels/requests.ts
+++ b/src/engine/channels/requests.ts
@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@ import {now} from "paravel"
 import {sessions} from "src/engine/session/state"
 import {session} from "src/engine/session/derived"
 import {loadPubkeys, subscribe} from "src/engine/network/utils"
-import {getPubkeyHints, getUserRelayUrls} from "src/engine/relays/utils"
+import {getPubkeyHints, getUserHints} from "src/engine/relays/utils"
 import {channels} from "./state"
 
 export const loadAllMessages = () => {
@@ -21,7 +21,7 @@ export const loadAllMessages = () => {
   subscribe({
     skipCache: true,
     timeout: 30_000,
-    relays: getUserRelayUrls("read"),
+    relays: getUserHints("read"),
     filters: [
       {kinds: [4], authors: [pubkey], since},
       {kinds: [4, 1059], "#p": [pubkey], since},
diff --git a/src/engine/events/requests.ts b/src/engine/events/requests.ts
index 97ee8538..8afa9456 100644
--- a/src/engine/events/requests.ts
+++ b/src/engine/events/requests.ts
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 import {prop} from "ramda"
 import {sessions} from "src/engine/session/state"
-import {getUserRelayUrls} from "src/engine/relays/utils"
+import {getUserHints} from "src/engine/relays/utils"
 import {load} from "src/engine/network/utils"
 import {deletesLastUpdated} from "./state"
 
@@ -9,7 +9,7 @@ export const loadDeletes = () => {
   const authors = Object.values(sessions.get()).map(prop("pubkey"))
 
   return load({
-    relays: getUserRelayUrls("write"),
+    relays: getUserHints("write"),
     filters: [{kinds: [5], authors, since}],
   })
 }
diff --git a/src/engine/groups/commands.ts b/src/engine/groups/commands.ts
index e17f8148..8de7b35a 100644
--- a/src/engine/groups/commands.ts
+++ b/src/engine/groups/commands.ts
@@ -12,7 +12,7 @@ import {displayPubkey} from "src/engine/people/utils"
 import {publishCommunitiesList} from "src/engine/lists/commands"
 import {
   getPubkeyHints,
-  getUserRelayUrls,
+  getUserHints,
   getGroupHints,
   getGroupRelayUrls,
   mergeHints,
@@ -86,7 +86,7 @@ export const getGroupPublishRelays = (address, overrides = null) => {
 export const publishToGroupAdmin = async (address, template) => {
   const group = groups.key(address).get()
   const {pubkey} = Naddr.fromTagValue(address)
-  const relays = group?.relays || getUserRelayUrls("write")
+  const relays = group?.relays || getUserHints("write")
   const rumor = await nip59.get().wrap(template, {
     wrap: {
       author: generatePrivateKey(),
diff --git a/src/engine/groups/requests.ts b/src/engine/groups/requests.ts
index d2c2a508..134154e2 100644
--- a/src/engine/groups/requests.ts
+++ b/src/engine/groups/requests.ts
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 import {Naddr} from "src/util/nostr"
 import {groups} from "src/engine/groups/state"
-import {getUserRelayUrls} from "src/engine/relays/utils"
+import {getUserHints} from "src/engine/relays/utils"
 import {load} from "src/engine/network/utils"
 
 export const attemptedAddrs = new Map()
@@ -33,7 +33,7 @@ export const loadGroups = async (rawAddrs: string[]) => {
   const identifiers = naddrs.map(naddr => naddr.identifier)
 
   return load({
-    relays: getUserRelayUrls('read'),
-    filters: [{kinds: [34550], authors, '#d': identifiers}],
+    relays: getUserHints("read"),
+    filters: [{kinds: [34550], authors, "#d": identifiers}],
   })
 }
diff --git a/src/engine/groups/utils.ts b/src/engine/groups/utils.ts
index 9fea1456..4a0abfe0 100644
--- a/src/engine/groups/utils.ts
+++ b/src/engine/groups/utils.ts
@@ -5,7 +5,7 @@ import {Naddr} from "src/util/nostr"
 import type {GroupStatus} from "src/engine/session/model"
 import {pubkey} from "src/engine/session/state"
 import {session} from "src/engine/session/derived"
-import {getUserRelayUrls, mergeHints} from "src/engine/relays/utils"
+import {getUserRelayUrls, getGroupHints, mergeHints} from "src/engine/relays/utils"
 import {groups, groupSharedKeys, groupAdminKeys} from "./state"
 import type {Group} from "./model"
 import {MembershipLevel, GroupAccess, MemberAccess} from "./model"
@@ -57,22 +57,16 @@ export const getGroupReqInfo = (address = null) => {
   since = Math.max(0, since - seconds(7, "day"))
 
   const admins = []
+  const addresses = []
   const recipients = [pubkey.get()]
-  const relaysByGroup = []
 
   for (const key of [...$groupSharedKeys, ...$groupAdminKeys]) {
     admins.push(Naddr.fromTagValue(key.group).pubkey)
-
+    addresses.push(key.group)
     recipients.push(key.pubkey)
-
-    const group = groups.key(key.group).get()
-
-    if (group?.relays) {
-      relaysByGroup[group.address] = group.relays
-    }
   }
 
-  const relays = mergeHints([getUserRelayUrls("read"), ...Object.values(relaysByGroup)])
+  const relays = mergeHints([getUserRelayUrls("read"), ...addresses.map(getGroupHints)])
 
   return {admins, recipients, relays, since}
 }
diff --git a/src/engine/network/utils/dvms.ts b/src/engine/network/utils/dvms.ts
index abaa3983..b880caf4 100644
--- a/src/engine/network/utils/dvms.ts
+++ b/src/engine/network/utils/dvms.ts
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
 import {now} from "paravel"
 import {seconds} from "hurdak"
 import {generatePrivateKey} from "nostr-tools"
-import {getUserRelayUrls} from "src/engine/relays/utils"
+import {getUserHints} from "src/engine/relays/utils"
 import type {Event} from "src/engine/events/model"
 import {createAndPublish} from "./publish"
 import {subscribe} from "./subscribe"
@@ -24,7 +24,7 @@ export const dvmRequest = async ({
   onProgress = null,
 }: DVMRequestOpts): Promise<Event> => {
   if (!relays) {
-    relays = getUserRelayUrls()
+    relays = getUserHints()
   }
 
   if (typeof input !== "string") {
diff --git a/src/engine/network/utils/publish.ts b/src/engine/network/utils/publish.ts
index 9e16339a..62d94bba 100644
--- a/src/engine/network/utils/publish.ts
+++ b/src/engine/network/utils/publish.ts
@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@ import {Naddr, isAddressable, getIdAndAddress} from "src/util/nostr"
 import type {Event, NostrEvent} from "src/engine/events/model"
 import {people} from "src/engine/people/state"
 import {displayPerson} from "src/engine/people/utils"
-import {getUserRelayUrls, getEventHints, getPubkeyHint} from "src/engine/relays/utils"
+import {getUserHints, getEventHints, getPubkeyHint} from "src/engine/relays/utils"
 import {env} from "src/engine/session/state"
 import {signer} from "src/engine/session/derived"
 import {projections} from "src/engine/core/projections"
@@ -143,7 +143,7 @@ export type PublishOpts = EventOpts & {
 export const publish = async (template, {sk, relays}: PublishOpts) => {
   return Publisher.publish({
     timeout: 5000,
-    relays: relays || getUserRelayUrls("write"),
+    relays: relays || getUserHints("write"),
     event: sk
       ? await signer.get().signWithKey(template, sk)
       : await signer.get().signAsUser(template),
diff --git a/src/engine/notes/commands.ts b/src/engine/notes/commands.ts
index 40cda393..056f6880 100644
--- a/src/engine/notes/commands.ts
+++ b/src/engine/notes/commands.ts
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 import {createEvent} from "paravel"
-import {getIdAndAddress} from 'src/util/nostr'
-import {getUserRelayUrls} from "src/engine/relays/utils"
+import {getIdAndAddress} from "src/util/nostr"
+import {getUserHints} from "src/engine/relays/utils"
 import {createAndPublish, getReplyTags} from "src/engine/network/utils"
 
 export const publishNote = (content, tags = [], relays = null) =>
@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@ export const publishNote = (content, tags = [], relays = null) =>
 
 export const publishDeletion = (ids, relays = null) =>
   createAndPublish(5, {
-    relays: relays || getUserRelayUrls("write"),
+    relays: relays || getUserHints("write"),
     tags: ids.map(id => [id.includes(":") ? "a" : "e", id]),
   })
 
diff --git a/src/engine/people/requests.ts b/src/engine/people/requests.ts
index 1f60f2ed..09499e77 100644
--- a/src/engine/people/requests.ts
+++ b/src/engine/people/requests.ts
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 import {debounce} from "throttle-debounce"
 import {load} from "src/engine/network/utils"
-import {getUserRelayUrls} from "src/engine/relays/utils"
+import {getUserHints} from "src/engine/relays/utils"
 import {searchableRelays} from "src/engine/relays/derived"
 import {people} from "./state"
 
@@ -14,7 +14,7 @@ export const loadPeople = debounce(500, search => {
     })
   } else if (people.get().length < 50) {
     load({
-      relays: getUserRelayUrls("read"),
+      relays: getUserHints("read"),
       filters: [{kinds: [0], limit: 50}],
     })
   }
diff --git a/src/engine/relays/utils.ts b/src/engine/relays/utils.ts
index a09f06b5..29eb93c5 100644
--- a/src/engine/relays/utils.ts
+++ b/src/engine/relays/utils.ts
@@ -170,6 +170,12 @@ export const getPubkeyHints = hintSelector(function* (pubkey: string, mode: Rela
 export const getPubkeyHint = (pubkey: string): string =>
   first(getPubkeyHints(1, pubkey, "write")) || ""
 
+export const getUserHints = hintSelector(function* (mode: RelayMode) {
+  yield* getUserRelayUrls(mode)
+})
+
+export const getUserHint = (pubkey: string): string => first(getUserHints(1, "write")) || ""
+
 export const getEventHints = hintSelector(function* (event: Event) {
   yield* getPubkeyRelayUrls(event.pubkey, RelayMode.Write)
   yield* event.seen_on.filter(isShareableRelay)
@@ -217,6 +223,12 @@ export const getGroupHints = hintSelector(function* (address: string) {
   yield* getPubkeyHints(Naddr.fromTagValue(address).pubkey)
 })
 
+export const getGroupPublishHints = (addresses: string[]) => {
+  const urls = mergeHints(addresses.map(getGroupHints))
+
+  return urls.length === 0 ? getUserRelayUrls("write") : urls
+}
+
 export const mergeHints = (groups: string[][], limit: number = null) => {
   const scores = {} as Record<string, any>
 
diff --git a/src/engine/reports/commands.ts b/src/engine/reports/commands.ts
index 50895e09..88c0a742 100644
--- a/src/engine/reports/commands.ts
+++ b/src/engine/reports/commands.ts
@@ -1,12 +1,12 @@
 import {createEvent} from "paravel"
 import {generatePrivateKey} from "nostr-tools"
 import {signer} from "src/engine/session/derived"
-import {getUserRelayUrls} from "src/engine/relays/utils"
+import {getUserHints} from "src/engine/relays/utils"
 import {Publisher} from "src/engine/network/utils"
 
 // Use an ephemeral private key for user privacy
 export const publishReport = async (content = "", tags = [], relays = null) =>
   Publisher.publish({
-    relays: relays || getUserRelayUrls("write"),
+    relays: relays || getUserHints("write"),
     event: await signer.get().signWithKey(createEvent(1984, {content, tags}), generatePrivateKey()),
   })